Namaskāra to everyone, I'm reading a paper, which has two paragraphs that stood out at me: infinityfoundation.com/mandala/i_es/i_es_UIA_language_frameset.htm "2. Modeling language relationships by sound "The distinguishing "linguistic" and epistemological feature of the Ṛg Veda hymns is the manner in which they are grounded in sound and demand a selection amongst alternative musical patterns. Since the number of tonal systems is infinite, the selection of a finite number of them by the singer/musician at the moment of execution, not only closes him within a certain limitation or determination (e.g., just tuning, equal temperament) but, more radically, it forces him to constantly face the internal incompatibility of any such systems, the tones of every conceivable system must constantly face and submit to a radical sacrifice to permit others to emerge. (1978, p. 12) "Therefore, from a linguistic and cultural perspective, we have to be aware that we are dealing with a language where tonal and arithmetical relations establish the epistemological invariances. Language grounded in music is grounded thereby on context dependency; any tone can have any possible relation to other tones, and the shift from one tone to another, which alone makes melody possible, is a shift in perspective which the singer himself embodies. Any perspective (tone) must be "sacrificed" for a new one to come into being; the song is a radical activity which requires innovation while maintaining continuity, and the "world" is the creation of the singer, who shares its dimensions with the song." (1978, p. 57) The thing that stood out at me is my experience of music, which while I enjoy it in spite of my deafness and can hear pitches and pitch myself relative to my didgeridoo instruments, I don't think in terms of equal-temperament tuning of western music, though I understand the concepts. How to explain... I can be hearing music from different parts of the world using vastly different tuning systems, and I would have no idea this would be happening. It just sounds normal to me. I can't even really tell the difference between a minor and a major key just by listening. I've heard bands known to play a particular song(s) with carnatic style on the guitar, and I have no idea how it sounds different. It seems like as long it has a pleasant or interesting sound and a decent rhythm, anything goes. It is the opposite for many people, apparently. It grates on them, or they get disoriented. Anyone have to anything to say on this? I'm unraveling a mystery here... Praṇāma
NaMaste Ancient, I read 2-3 times What you have written but still I am unable to understand what you want to convey. Can you please elaborate ?
Simply, it means that a westerner would listen to rock 'n roll, and they could tell you what key, whether it's indie rock, hard rock, progressive rock, etc. If they were listening to blues, they could tell you if it was Chicago Blues or Delta Blues. Classical; high classical, medieval, impressionist, or orchestral. I do not have this ability, even to the point that I could listen to Indian rock, Indian pop, Pujabi music, and various forms of arab music and not understand why they are different. Sometimes, I can "feel" that there is some basic difference in sound, rhythm, and cadence of a songs. When I say "feel," I don't mean that I am feeling the vibrations of sound through my skin. I cannot do that except for the lowest frequencies and sense nothing above that without my hearing aids. What I mean is that I hear it, and there some sort of connection between the hearing sensations and some kind of awareness "flavor," for a lack of a better word. I wouldn't be able to tell that there was anything unusual about it. Most people who are very focused or locked into western music styles are unable to cope with the different melodies, harmonies, tunings, compositions and appreciate/enjoy the songs.
I will comment on it without even reading the post Yes music is a language that our body and mind understands. it has power to take away stress from human brain, it has power to make person happy, sad and even fall in love. But i would again add something which not too many people would agree to , music isn't what your ear hears it, it can be what u mind hears it or what ur body hears it, many times u might have seen your mind is on song and you feel life dancing without a sound. Even when u get in state of trance many times ur body tend to move( like shiva used to dance when in trance)
Namaste Aum, I wonder if that's what it is, how your mind hears it, because I have very bad hearing (profoundly deaf), and yet I'm a musician. I hear things that deaf people with my level of loss rarely ever experience.
well spiritual people run away from worldly sounds as they want to hear the eternal music hence they run away to hills and try searching for eternal voices within
well eternal voice i would say that comes from heart i guess, which guide u ...sometime when u try to steal something a voice may come from inside "hi man ur stealing something its a sin you shouldn't be doing so" i guess this can be called as eternal voice.
